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Photo Credit: Will Covey
Photo Credit: Will Covey

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I recently had the opportunity to interview Fae Fatale, a Los Angeles-based musician and visual artist whose creative work spans music, visual art, fashion, photography, and writing. Known for combining powerful music with dark, cinematic imagery, she has developed a distinctive artistic world that is bold, mysterious, and deeply personal.


During our conversation, Fae Fatale opened up about her upbringing, the family and creative influences that shaped her, and the experiences that inspired her to pursue music. We also explored the story behind her name, the evolution of her musical journey, and the creative process she follows when writing and recording her songs.


Beyond the music, we discussed the importance of fashion and visual storytelling within her work, the personal challenges she has faced throughout her career, and the special connection she shares with her fans. Fae Fatale also spoke about her artistic ambitions, upcoming creative direction, and the legacy she hopes to leave behind.


Join us as we step inside the imaginative world of Fae Fatale and learn more about the artist, storyteller, and visionary behind the music.


Amit Ahuja: Before we dive into your music, I'd love to begin at the very foundation of your story. Every artist has a unique journey, and I'd like to go back to where it all started. Tell us about your background growing up, the community that shaped you, and how your musical journey first began. Looking back, what were some of the earliest experiences that inspired you to pursue music, and when did you first realize this could become something much bigger than a hobby?


Fae Fatale: I’ve always known I was an artist. I grew up with my dad, who’s an incredible guitar player trained in jazz fusion from Berklee College of Music, and my brother who has always been a very talented guitar player as well. My grandma was an actress and singer as well as an astrologer, psychic, and tarot reader amongst many other things. Being immersed in a household of talented artists and being surrounded by their friends definitely played a role in influencing me to become a singer. My parents always said once I could talk, I was singing.


I remember being somewhere around the age of 5, writing songs in my room, and I would perform them for my family and their friends.


It wasn’t until later in life when I was working as a stylist that I realized I needed to return to my roots in music. I actually went to pursue music production at a music school and it was there when I started singing again for a songwriting class. It was then when I knew exactly that this was the career path I needed to be on. It reignited that spark I had as a kid and pursuing this as a career has absolutely always been what I’ve truly wanted.


Amit Ahuja: At what point did Fae Fatale truly become more than just a creative idea? Was there a specific song, recording session, live performance, or personal moment where everything suddenly clicked and you realized this project had its own identity? Looking back now, how important was that moment in shaping the artist you've become today?


Fae Fatale: It was while working on a final project in music school that it all started coming together. I wrote my first rendition of my song Grim Reaper in music school with one of my classmates who had recorded the guitars for it. This was where I had this huge realization, I could start looking for instrumentalists and producers to work with to bring my songs to life. From that point on I knew it was time to drop out of school and pursue singing-songwriting full time and go all in 110% towards creating the world of Fae Fatale.


Amit Ahuja: The name Fae Fatale is incredibly memorable and mysterious. What inspired you to choose that name, and what does it represent to you personally? Has its meaning evolved over time as you've grown as an artist? When someone hears the name Fae Fatale, what emotions, imagery, or ideas do you hope immediately come to mind?


Fae Fatale: I was inspired to use Fatale after reading the ballad, La Belle Dame Sans Merci, which in english is, “The Beautiful Lady Without Mercy.” It’s a Femme Fatale about a woman who essentially attracts men into the woods, seduces them with her love, and then tortures and kills them. It was very instrumental in inspiring my name because the woman is considered to be “fairy like” and “otherworldly.” I felt this poem aligned well with the world I continue to build with my desires to blend cinematic horror with darker motifs. I believe each of my songs are their own twisted dark fairytales. Fae came from my middle name. "I had the name Fae planned out for years. Fae comes from dropping the consonants in my middle name, Frances, which was my great grandmother’s name. When I discovered La Belle Dame Sans Merci, Fae Fatale came to be." The meaning has definitely evolved as I continue to grow into this project as well as an artist. Without revealing too much I think fans will see more of what I mean in this next chapter I’m about to unveil.


I hope they find comfort in my music, and it empowers them to be authentically themselves.


Amit Ahuja: Every artist develops their own creative process. When you're writing music, how would you describe yourself? Are you a perfectionist who carefully refines every lyric, someone who follows emotion and instinct, or do you find yourself somewhere in between? How has your songwriting process changed over the years?


Fae Fatale: I’m definitely a perfectionist when it comes to refining lyrics. I’m very intentional about each word I choose and how I want to convey the story I am telling. I spend a lot of time working on the lyrics. I’ve always been very attached to my lyrics but I’m learning to be more collaborative now as I am working with new collaborators. There’s so much to be learned from others and I think it’s really important to hear everyone’s ideas in the room. I’m always wanting to become a better writer so I’m constantly listening to songs that inspire me and trying to learn from artists I look up to.


Amit Ahuja: Fans usually only see the finished songs and visuals, but they rarely witness the struggles behind them. What has been the biggest obstacle you've faced professionally or creatively as Fae Fatale? How did you overcome that challenge, and what did it teach you about yourself and your dedication to your music?


Fae Fatale: If I’m being completely honest the biggest obstacle I continue to face is my health. I’ve been battling being chronically ill for most of my life but it became quite severe these last couple years. It feels like every time I start to feel like I get my head above water something happens with my health that sets me back for months and completely derails the goals and deadlines I’ve set for myself. Fans, collaborators, even most friends don’t see me on a bad day. I think I still am learning to navigate it and figure out how to continue to make my dreams reality.


I’ve learned a lot about myself throughout it. I’ve learned even when I’ve hit my breaking point all I can think about is wanting to get back to making music, creating the art I love, and how badly I want to get to being a full time touring artist. I cannot wait to get to play for all my fans I’ve connected with online and bring them the shows I’ve been dying to perform.


I also have learned that if there’s a will there’s a way. My vocal coach and I have worked so hard these past couple years to overcome constant vocal inflammation in my voice from being sick for years with autoimmune disease complications. In return all of that strengthened my vocal techniques and abilities. Although this is my biggest obstacle it will never stop me from achieving my dreams to be one of the biggest artists in metal and tour worldwide.


Amit Ahuja: One of the things that makes your music stand out is its emotional depth and dark atmosphere. When creating a new song, where does the process usually begin? Is it with a lyric, a melody, a specific emotion, an image in your mind, or something completely unexpected? How do those first ideas gradually evolve into the finished songs your listeners hear?


Fae Fatale: It starts pretty differently every time. Some of my best ideas come to me when I’m out for a walk in nature or on a drive. I try not to be distracted while walking so I can pull inspiration while out or not on a phone call while driving. The brain can come up with really incredible ideas when we’re not overloading our senses. We’re not meant to live in this AI digital sensory overload where people can access you 24/7. It’s so important to have alone time and disappear from reality. Sometimes it comes from a lyric and I see a whole world start playing out in my mind that I write to. Other times it’s something I physically see that inspires lyrical ideas.


The process changes a bit each time but it always involves creating in the studio with collaborators until I believe it’s done and ready to be unveiled to the world.


Amit Ahuja: Many of your songs have sparked discussion among fans because of their powerful themes and storytelling. I'd love for you to take us deeper into your catalog. Can you explain the themes, meanings, and inspirations behind "Grim Reaper," "Lobotomy," "Internet Girl," "Know You Best," "Raw Meat," and "Voodoo Doll"? What inspired each song, what emotions or stories were you exploring while writing them, and what do you hope listeners take away from each track?


Fae Fatale: I usually don’t fully explain the meanings behind each song so every listener can interpret them through their own experiences. I want people to have their own unique connection to the music instead of applying my meanings. Each one of my songs are unique from one another and highlight different emotions, experiences, and stories. Each song feels like a new main character I get to play that’s embarking on a different journey. Some are more personal than others which are a bit more abstract and rooted in fiction.


Grim Reaper was a cathartic piece exploring my personal struggles with suicide and depression. Grim Reaper allowed me to be vulnerable with my depression and suicidal thoughts in a way I hadn’t before. It came from a really dark place and it turned out to be something beautiful. I hope others who are struggling can find comfort in the song and know they’re not alone.


Lobotomy was my take on the female experience. It’s about women being silenced historically by a lobotomy at the hands of fearful men who wanted to rid us of our autonomy and ability to freely think, what it’s like to be over sexualized and objectified just for existing as a woman, and how they still try to disempower women today. I hope listeners feel empowered.


Internet Girl was a song Derek Hung and I covered by KATSEYE. It was the first song I’ve ever covered and released. It was so much working with Derek on this project. He had released a cover originally on TikTok with KATSEYE’s original vocals on it but he couldn’t officially release that version to streaming platforms. I commented on it, “I think it needs some screams,” and from there Derek asked me to cover it with him and that’s how our cover came to be. I love it and hope people have fun listening to our cover.



Know You Best is a horror inspired song. I played thematically with obsession and toxic-desire in it. I drew heavily from the movie Disturbia for my inspiration in writing and directing the music video for it. I took the typical girl next door trope and flipped it on its head. I turned the typical prey into the predator and have the main character who’s being stalked actually lure her predator over and kill him instead.



Raw Meat explores themes of retribution, rage, and violence. It’s a fictional piece I wrote rooted in horror with a horror inspired music video to go along with it after seeing a metal door on the ground in the middle of the desert that was locked up. It looked like an entrance to the beginning of something terrifying. It’s a fun sing-along if someone’s wronged you or a theme song to imagine a hero seeking out a villain on a quest for vengeance.


Voodoo Doll explores toxic obsession, self-deprecation in relationships, and the potential toxicity of muses. I wrote the music video with the idea of playing a discarded muse who is a living voodoo doll. I worked with my friend, Will Covey, who’s also my makeup and hair artist to do SFX pins in my body. I created my outfit and makeup inspiration from John Galliano and Pat McGrath’s Margiela runway porcelain dolls. I wanted to become the physical art of the artist who had discarded her. In the video we shot the entire thing outside in back alleys to represent being discarded like a piece of trash. It was one of my favorite looks we’ve ever created. I also think the song itself is very sexy and you can really hear Marilyn Manson’s influence on my writing in this one.



Amit Ahuja: As you've written these songs, have there ever been moments when you decided to take a creative risk or move outside of what people might expect from Fae Fatale? Were there songs that changed dramatically from their earliest versions, or ideas that almost didn't make the final cut?


Fae Fatale: I never think of things as creative risks but rather just creative growth as an artist. I have a pretty expansive taste in genres and come from an eclectic musical background. All of my songs feel pretty different from each other. If all of my songs sounded similar I’d be bored. I have a pretty short attention span and am always chasing this high of creating something that pushes my vocal abilities. Every time I finish a song I’m always stoked when it's nothing like something I’ve written before.


I think all of the new projects I’m working on right now sound nothing like what I currently have released. I don’t think anyone is expecting these in my discography and that’s very exciting to me.


Grim Reaper changed the most from its original version. I wrote it while in music school and when my producer and I sat down to work on it for my artist project a lot of it was reimagined. The bones were there but a lot was cut to make it what it was now. The oh’s were actually recorded while I was just laying on the studio couch singing into the mic trying to play with what was already written and we both loved them. The original version also never had a breakdown. The breakdown in Grim Reaper is one of my favorite screams I have out.



Amit Ahuja: Your lyrics often feel deeply personal while still leaving room for interpretation. When writing, are you usually drawing from personal experiences, observations about the world, fictional characters, or emotions that are difficult to express in everyday conversation? How do you decide which experiences become songs, and how comfortable are you with allowing listeners into your more vulnerable moments?


Fae Fatale: It’s different for every song. Some songs feel deeply personal to me and others feel much more removed and fictional. There’s always a bit of me in them but there’s also always that aspect of fictional storytelling too. My project is more theatrical in nature and that’s the mindset I have when I write songs with the intention that they’re going to be released for the Fae Fatale world. I don’t think I ever consciously choose what I share and what I don’t. I just write with whatever inspiration I have or if there is a specific theme for the project I write with that in mind. Consciously I don’t go into writing a song with censorship in mind. I think parameters, in that sense, hinder creativity.


Amit Ahuja: Your music often explores themes that feel both beautiful and unsettling, leaving listeners with more questions than answers. When you're creating a song, how do you balance mystery with clarity? Do you intentionally leave parts of the story open for interpretation, or do you usually have a very specific narrative in mind from the beginning?


Fae Fatale: I write each song like it’s a dark fairytale; as if I’m telling a theatrical story rather than a song. They usually come together differently every time. I don’t really think of it as censoring or leaving parts open ended. I also don’t have clear paths or ends for my songs in mind when I start. I just allow myself to freely write on my own or freely with my collaborators. Sometimes things change based on how the instrumental accompanying it starts to come together when we’re in the studio. For me every piece has its own meaning but I allow the listener to assign their own meaning to it once it’s released. When I’m writing, that’s when the song belongs to me. Once it’s released it’s no longer mine to control. It’s the audience’s to have their own experience with. That’s the beauty of consuming art. You get to assign your own meaning to it based on your own life experiences.


Amit Ahuja: Your visual aesthetic has become just as recognizable as your music. How important are fashion, photography, artwork, and visual storytelling to the Fae Fatale project? When you're developing a new release, do the visuals naturally grow alongside the music, or do they come together afterward?


Fae Fatale: It’s equitably as important to me as the music itself. I’m equal parts a visual artist as I am a singer-songwriter. All of these aspects have always been very important in my growth as an artist. Even as a kid I was always interested in photography, fashion, and how it all played into the visual identity I wanted to portray. My dad got me my first camera in middle school and I took photography classes at a local art center, joined photography club in middle school, and even did a class in high school where I learned to develop my own film. Before pursuing music full time I had worked in fashion and studied in fashion programs abroad at Polimoda and Parsons Paris. I one day plan to have my own brand and design my own luxury sustainable collection.


The visuals usually come together at the same time I am working on a project. They usually are happening in my mind simultaneously. Everytime I start writing a song I see the world that song lives in playing in my head like a movie. I love writing and directing the visuals and being part of every bit of the process that goes into bringing them to life. I’ll work with friends to design my costumes, I’ll build my own props, I’ll work with the photographers and videographers to get certain shots exactly how I see it in my brain. I live for this. It’s the greatest high for me.


Amit Ahuja: Has there ever been a message or conversation with a fan that completely changed the way you viewed your own music? Can you share a moment when someone told you one of your songs helped them through a difficult time or connected with them in a way you never expected?


Fae Fatale: Absolutely. There have been many moments with fans that have made me realize my music is so much bigger than myself. I write pretty selfishly and I’m not thinking about the impact the song will have on others while I’m working on it. It’s been a very surreal experience hearing from fans how they love my music or how much certain songs have meant to them. One of my fans and I have even talked about how they’re designing a custom voodoo doll to get tattooed on themselves. I think that’s the coolest thing. I’m completely honored my music has impacted so many people and that people would get tattoos inspired by my art. My fans all mean the absolute world to me.


Amit Ahuja: Many artists talk about balancing vulnerability with mystery. How do you decide what parts of yourself to reveal through your music while still preserving your own sense of privacy?


Fae Fatale: My songs definitely are more theatrical in nature. Even when they feel personal there still feels like there is a separation from the art and the artist. I really allow my listeners to identify their own meanings to my songs rather than over sharing what everything means to me. Of course, my songs all have their own meanings to me but I leave it up to my fans to have their own as well. We live in a world where we are constantly being told what to do and what to think. I think it’s really important as an artist to allow people to make their own judgments and feel the art for themselves. As it is, I’m sure they hear tons of interpretations and reviews on others' songs as well.


Amit Ahuja: Outside of music, what hobbies or interests help you relax and recharge creatively? Are there activities that inspire your writing in ways people might not expect?


Fae Fatale: Horror movies really help me creatively recharge. I love going to the movie theatre with my fellow horror movie junkies and seeing a brand new movie. I find a lot of inspiration for writing and directing when watching a new horror movie. The last movie I saw that was really inspirational for me was Exit 8. I went to see it 3 times and I even went to a Q&A in LA where the director was interviewed by Guillermo del Toro. The film is incredibly impressive. I think anyone trying to get into directing and/or filmmaking should watch that movie. The director Genki Kawamura had two identical train corridors built back to back so they could film these crazy one shots of the main character looping through the station. The filming logistics are insane as well as the performances.


Amit Ahuja: Fans often feel like they know artists through their music and social media, but there's always another side people don't get to see. What's something about you that listeners would probably never guess? Do you have any hidden talents, unusual interests, collections, or personal goals you've rarely had the chance to talk about?


Fae Fatale: I love cooking. As I’ve gotten busier with my career I don’t often have as much time anymore to cook the dishes I like to make anymore but I used to love to host dinner parties for my friends and cook for everyone. I love making different types of mushroom dishes with gnocchi or summer fish dishes. I hope to get back into cooking and hosting dinner parties again one day.


Amit Ahuja: When someone experiences a Fae Fatale performance for the first time, what do you hope they feel? Beyond performing the songs, how important are the atmosphere, visuals, fashion, lighting, and emotional connection in creating the full experience, and what do you hope stays with people long after the show ends?


Fae Fatale: I hope they leave feeling like they attended more than just a live performance but that they transcended into a full multi-sensory immersive experience. It’s all equitably important. I’m heavily inspired by runway and I want to incorporate my favorite elements from shows that largely influenced me into my live shows. All of my creative experiences and visions will be fully realized one day into my live shows as well to create a multi-dimensional experience for my audience. I hope my fans always feel my shows are a safe space and leave with an experience that was unforgettable.


Amit Ahuja: Throughout your journey as an artist, who have been some of the most influential people you've looked up to, whether they're musicians, producers, writers, visual artists, family members, mentors, or even fictional characters? What was it about them that inspired you, and how have those influences helped shape the artist—and person—you've become today?


Fae Fatale: There’s been so many artists and individuals who have inspired me but I would say my top would have to be Lady Gaga, Marina, Marilyn Manson, Rezz, Alexander McQueen, Betsey Johnson, John Galliano, Jim Henson’s work especially for Labyrinth, Guillermo del Toro’s directorial work, Luca Guadagnino’s directorial work for the Suspiria 2018 remake, both of my parents and brother.


I think there’s a common denominator among all of these individuals. They’re world builders. In each of their own rights they have created fully immersive worlds for their audiences. Aside from my family, every single person listed has left a profound impact, on not only the industry that they occupied, but the entire world.


Although my mom isn’t a musician she is an artist in many ways. She made my brother’s and my Halloween costumes, she embroidered custom flowers onto my denim, she taught me the art of thrifting and to appreciate vintage. She allowed me to blossom like the crazy wildflower that I was and never once tried to change me. I’ll never forget buying these bright red suede Betsey Johnson heeled boots with her when I was around 12. She helped me build an incredible confidence, when at 12, I felt invincible. If it wasn’t for my mom I wouldn’t be the artist or woman I am today.


Everyone I look up to has worked on their craft to mastery levels, overcome countless hurdles, pioneered paths in their fields, faced extensive backlash for their art yet never gave up. Each one of them authentically created and created waves when they released their art to the world.


I never quite fitted in when I was younger. I always had different interests and differing opinions than my peers. School was not my strong suit and sitting still with undiagnosed ADHD wasn’t doing me any favors. The influences I looked up to provided me a creative escape into a world far beyond my own and showed me that most people won’t get it. But it’s the ones who do that count.


Amit Ahuja: Your music creates such vivid imagery that it's easy to picture it as part of a larger story. If one of your songs became the soundtrack to a horror movie, which song would you choose, and what kind of nightmare would it tell? What themes, characters, or emotions would define the story, and why does that particular song feel like the perfect fit?


Fae Fatale: I would choose Raw Meat. It would be a nightmare that brings the audience on a ruthless kidnapping excursion, where the one being kidnapped has wronged the kidnapper. She seeks retribution on her enemy by bringing him out to the desert and buries him alive. I wrote the song actually with this storyline in mind and the music video I wrote and directed for it, which can be watched on youtube, follows this plot.


I saw this creepy metal door on the ground that was locked up with chains and a huge lock in the middle of the desert while on a trip to Joshua Tree with my family and imagined this entire horror movie in my head. I wrote the lyrics based on this fictional horror story I saw play out in my head.


The visual story is fueled by rage, violence, and retribution. You never know what she’s seeking revenge for or why but I think that mystery makes it all the better.


Photo Credit: Wayde Crawford
Photo Credit: Wayde Crawford

Amit Ahuja: If Fae Fatale stepped out of your music and became a fully realized character in a film or video game, who would she be? How would you describe her appearance, personality, motivations, and the world she inhabits? Is she an extension of yourself, a heightened version of your artistic persona, or someone entirely different?


Fae Fatale: Fae Fatale is an extension of me. She is a shapeshifter and transforms into a new character each song. She always has long, perfectly sharpened stiletto shaped nails, a sparkle of glitter in her eyeshadow, glistening oxblood colored hair, and somewhere there’s always a drop of blood or two on her skin from whatever battle she’s been in. She is this super being that is unapologetically herself. She seeks vengeance and takes action. She is the mirror that reflects back on people what they are too afraid to face. She’s a hero and a villain depending on who you ask.


Amit Ahuja: Your music often comes from deeply personal and emotional places, and creating art at that level can be incredibly rewarding but also emotionally demanding. Throughout your journey as Fae Fatale, how have you learned to balance the pressures of creating, recording, performing, and navigating everyday life while protecting your mental well-being? Are there any routines, creative outlets, or people who help keep you grounded during difficult times? Looking back, how have those experiences influenced both your music and the person you've become?


Fae Fatale: I think this is something I am still learning to balance. I’m getting better at it now because my body will force me to take a rest if I don’t build downtime into my day. I think there’s this really unhealthy unrealistic demand on artists. Artists are expected to constantly be creating new music, creating music videos while being online 24/7 to run their social media channels, to go viral and blow up on streaming platforms, and tour, as well as attend to a plethora of other things needed for the business side of the project.


Making sure I have downtime to get enough rest at night is by far the most important thing I need to balance it all. If I’m tired and run down the next day I already feel burned out and need a full day to recover. I do a lot to take care of my mental health. I go to therapy and do EMDR work. I journal and meditate. I make sure to hangout with friends instead of self isolating (but I’m still working on this one). I love working out and walking in nature. I regularly get acupuncture. My dog is my rock and she really keeps me grounded. I’m incredibly close with my family and spend a lot of time with them.


Reconnecting with nature helps me recenter myself when I’m having a hard time. I’ve struggled with mental health my whole life and often need to reconnect with myself and nature to feel okay. Every time I’ve come back to reconnecting with the outdoors it inspires a new creative phase for me. Whether it’s a song or a video idea something beautiful always comes out of it.


Amit Ahuja: Looking back at your entire catalog, is there one song that you feel best represents Fae Fatale as an artist today? What makes that track so significant to you, and do you think it captures the direction you're continuing to move toward creatively?


Fae Fatale: I think Wasteland represents Fae Fatale the most. Wasteland to me feels like this really exciting industrial edm elements type blend of a song with uncomfortable lyrics and heavy screams. I love experimenting with different genres and really playing into a character in the songs. I felt like Wasteland allowed me to do that and in a similar vein I am doing that with the new projects I am working on now. I’m really having fun pushing the limits of experimenting with aspects from different genres and creating strong characters in these songs.


Amit Ahuja: As you look toward the future, where do you hope Fae Fatale goes creatively? Are there new sounds, collaborations, visual concepts, or artistic challenges you hope to explore over the next few years? Ultimately, what kind of legacy do you hope your music leaves behind?


Fae Fatale: I hope to continue to meet and work with new collaborators. I definitely want to keep exploring pushing the limits of my vocal range with my singing capabilities and screams in new music. I’m dying to start doing live shows and start touring. I’ve always dreamed of what my live sets would look like and I cannot wait to bring them to my fans. I would love to collaborate with different videographers and teams to direct and act in more music videos. I have so many ideas I want to breathe life into.


I hope I inspire others to chase their dreams and know no matter how big their dreams are, the sky's the limit. I want to leave behind a legacy of incredibly strong vocals, art that inspires generations to come, that disrupts culture, make my mark across the film industry as well as fashion, and to die as one of the most revered performers. I want to act as well as write and direct horror movies, score a horror movie, have songs in video games, walk in my favorite designers’ runway shows, as well as design my own garments, scream for millions of people live on arena stages, collaborate with artists I’ve looked up to, get my name in the rock and roll hall of fame, and empower everyone I can to never give up on their dreams.


Amit Ahuja: Music has the power to comfort, challenge, and completely change the way someone sees themselves or the world. When someone reaches the end of a Fae Fatale song—or even your entire catalog—what do you hope has changed within them? Is there a particular feeling, message, question, or realization you hope they carry with them long after the music ends?


Fae Fatale: If anything, I hope they feel some spark of inspiration. I still remember the first time I discovered some of my favorite artists and the feelings I experienced after listening to their songs that had profound impacts on me. Every listener ultimately will have their own experience and assign their own meanings to each song. But that’s the beauty of art and I never want to impose my own version of how they should interpret the art once it’s out in the world. I would love it if some of my songs ignited conversations. I think some art requires active listening and is meant to start conversations in the communities where it’s being listened to.


Amit Ahuja: If you could sit down with your younger self—the person who was just beginning to dream about becoming Fae Fatale—what advice would you give them? Looking back now, what do you wish you had known about creativity, success, and staying true to yourself?


Fae Fatale: I wish I could have told her to not conform to who she thought she needed to be rather than who she was. I wish I could have told her to just keep at it and not be discouraged. I have way more confidence now and feel a lot better sticking to the process instead of rushing. I wish I had been more dedicated to my craft when I was younger, but if I didn’t live the life I did up until now I wouldn’t be Fae Fatale or write the way I do and I probably wouldn’t even be working with the same people now if I didn’t embark on the journey I did to get here. Although I wish I could have done some things differently I wouldn’t because ultimately all the different creative and life experiences have made me the artist, I am now.


Amit Ahuja: Finally, as we wrap things up, what message would you like to leave with your fans and our readers? For anyone currently chasing their own creative dreams, struggling to find their voice, or feeling misunderstood, what words of encouragement or perspective would you most like to share?


Fae Fatale: Stay true to yourself. The world needs authenticity now more than ever. We are living in a time where AI is taking over, and tech companies are trying to wipe out the need for creatives. It’s so incredibly important to keep creating art and fight back against this tech war against humans.


For anyone chasing their own creative dreams or struggling to find their voice I encourage you to be fearless. Trying is hot. Caring is ferocious. Having a drive is non-negotiable. Failure is inevitable. You’ll have to pick yourself back up again and again. But you won’t fail forever. You might not even fail as many times as you expected. But without failure you will never grow. Nothing worth doing is easy. I’ve put probably thousands of hours into working towards where I am today as a songwriter, a singer, an extreme vocalist, on my visual projects, the back end of my artist project, my content campaigns for marketing my songs, understanding how to navigate the industry as an independent artist, etc.


I used to have a very strong voice but as I got older, I was told to be quiet. We’re taught it’s safer to not be the loudest in the room. Safer to be agreeable than argumentative. It took me a long time to find my voice again and to step back into my power. Pursuing my career as a musician has helped me not only empower myself again but empower others as well.


Amit Ahuja: That brings our conversation with Fae Fatale to a close. We would like to thank her for taking the time to share her story, creative journey, personal experiences, and artistic vision with Hawk-IT Interviews.


Her passion for music, fashion, film, and visual storytelling demonstrates what it means to create without limits. As Fae Fatale continues to explore new sounds, build imaginative worlds, and bring her ambitious ideas to life, we look forward to seeing where her journey takes her next.


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Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery
Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery

Welcome to Hawk-IT Interviews!


I recently had the opportunity to sit down with Anthony Rivera, Miguel Corpsova, and Thomas "Grim" Nero of Haunter from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for an in-depth conversation. We discussed the band's beginnings, their musical evolution, the inspiration behind their songs, and the creative process that fuels their sound.


Our conversation went beyond the music, giving readers a chance to get to know each member on a more personal level. We explored their hobbies, interests, creative influences, and the life experiences that have shaped both them as individuals and Haunter as a band. Whether you've been following Haunter for years or are just discovering their music, this interview offers an intimate look at the personalities behind the band and the passion that continues to drive their creative journey.


Let's Begin!!


AMIT AHUJA: Before we dive into your music, I'd love to begin at the very foundation of Hunter's story. Every band has its own unique journey, and I'd like to go back to where it all started. Anthony, Thomas, and Miguel, tell us about your backgrounds growing up, the communities that shaped you, and how each of your musical journeys began.


ANTHONY RIVERA


My background is a mixed bag of influences. My mother was always into 80’s hair metal music like Guns N’ Roses and Def Leppard. My step-father was into more modern, heavier music like Rob Zombie and Korn. Those things shaped what I thought was sonically and visually cool. My own musical discovery was mid-00’s metalcore music like Bullet for my Valentine and Killswitch Engage. Specifically seeing BFMV’s “Live at Brixton” 2006 live show captivated and changed me. That was what made me say “Oh man, I want to do this for the rest of my life.” All of those things played such an important role in how Haunter and I fit together. The musical dynamics, the visuals, the intensity, the showmanship, all make total sense in the context that is Haunter.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


My mother introduced me to Bon Jovi when I was 3 years old and as I watched their music video for “I’ll Be There For You” the seed was planted for what I wanted to do with my life. When I was 13 years old my vocal career began mostly within the metalcore and deathcore scene in Wisconsin. It helped shaped my range and versatility while also maintaining and mastering that poetic charm those genres had in the 2000’s. Encase it all in my love for goth culture, horror media, and theatrics and you have what you hear and see before you.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


It all began back in 2005. I begged my parents to let me join the orchestra program. I began my journey as a cellist. Played cello up until the fifth grade. In 2007 I decided to change instruments. I began to learn the bass. My orchestra teacher at the time was shocked, like my parents. I was determined though. I have been a bassist ever since. Playing numerous school concerts, learning music theory, attending bass conferences, traveling around the country to play bass. I took all of this knowledge and began to apply it towards my love for metal music. I began to collide my love for classical techniques with the wild styles I’ve seen being done in the metal world. To my surprise though, Most of my favorite bass players also did the same. Making my love for music even greater.


AMIT AHUJA: How did your paths eventually cross, and what brought the three of you together to form Hunter? While each of you comes from a different background and brings your own personality and influences into the band, how have those individual experiences helped shape Hunter's identity and the creative partnership you share today?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I met Haunter as a pre-existing band. I was hired to photograph a set for someone else and Haunter happened to be on the bill. I loved the visuals, I loved that it defied the common music style of the area, I thought it would be a great fit for me. Thomas and I have an enormous amount of influences and goals in common, so I was able to step into the picture and bring in elements that he wanted to the band but had otherwise not found yet. And vice versa, Thomas offered me and opportunity to spread my wings, creatively, like I had not been able to with previous bands. Miguel offers a great personality fit and a solid work-horse mentality, on top of in-common influences. So the partnership with all three of us just made sense to put in place full-time.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Anthony Diabolos had the most straightforward story and approach. In his own way he asked to be a member of Haunter hahaha! Miguel Corpsova and I met briefly when they were trying out for my old blackened deathcore band known as Archiver. During the early days of Haunter we reconnected, he became our lead crew member, and then a little bit later on he tried out on bass after our former member respectfully resigned. Our individual experiences similar and different shaped Haunter to a degree we could have never predicted. Our love for horror and its sub genres is something we all share that is forever a part of our music’s atmosphere but our love for different genres seems to blend rather well surprisingly.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


I met Thomas “Grim” Nero about 11 years ago. I forgot what band he was in at the time, but our bands had crossed paths and I remember just being blown away. A few years later Thomas posted a status online, his band Archiver was in need of a bassist. I shot my shot, we all met up and that’s where our friendship honestly started. Thomas and I bonded over our love for horror and Godzilla. I didn’t get the gig though. Haha Go forward a few more years, Thomas asked me if I wanted to be a crew member for the HAUNTER. I of course agreed and began to help with he band’s merchandise sales, as well as their set up for shows. The band was playing in Madison, WI. Where they opened for Vampires Everywhere! and that is where I first met Anthony “ Diabolos” Rivera. He was taking photos of the bands playing that night. Move forward another year, Anthony had taken me under his wing and taught me what I know about photography. We also bonded over our love for horror, and our love for art and its various medias. Overall our three very different personalities collide in a beautiful way. We have this connection that definitely shows through our performances and music.


AMIT AHUJA: Looking back, were there any early moments that made you realize this group had the potential to become something special?


ANTHONY RIVERA


For me, it was immediate when I watched them live. My thought was, “I think I have the sauce to add to this in a productive way.” There were so many things I was inexperienced on that this band could help me with, and so many things I could offer that I felt the band needed by lacked, that Thomas and I both could see the bigger picture together and both of our lightbulbs went off at the same time.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


I knew Haunter was something special during quite a few moments. When we released our very first single “Dance Gothica” via record label Ghost Killer Entertainment to overwhelming positive reception, when we opened for Creeper to overwhelming positive reception, and when we toured for the first time and received overwhelming positive reception.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Personally, I knew HAUNTER was meant for greater things after I watched them play at this placed named The Sabbatic, in the Milwaukee, WI area. I had gone to the show to film the band for what was supposed to later be B-footage for an interview with them. That never happened as I never moved forward with that idea. Haha I was blown away with the bands performance, the way Thomas captured the crowds attention.


Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery
Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery

AMIT AHUJA: Once Haunter officially came together, what was the defining moment that convinced the three of you this band could become something more than just another musical project? Was there a rehearsal, songwriting session, live performance, or conversation where everything suddenly clicked and you realized Hunter had its own identity and future? Looking back now, how important was that moment in shaping the band you've become today?


ANTHONY RIVERA


If I had to pick on moment, it would be when we opened for Creeper at The Forge in Joliet, IL. It was a Thursday in October and we had just been added to the show the week before. There were technical issues as the sound guy no-call-no-showed and they were scrambling to get us a new engineer for the night. Doors were pushed 30 minutes or so. Then doors opened and no one had sound-checked yet. Suddenly we had 300 people in front of us who didn’t know who we were, no basis to play music, but there we were on stage. And Thomas and I took the lead on entertaining the audience. We both instinctively saw it as “this is extra stage time, we don’t need music to make a statement” and we spent 20 minutes interacting with the crowd, singing My Chemical Romance and laughing with them. So by the time we played, the audience was intimately familiar with us and they showed it. By the time we got off stage, we had a swarm of people at the merch booth and our social media was going nuts. That crowd connection made me say “wow, people really can care about what we do at this intense level.” I think that set the bar for us going forward to make sure we weren’t just playing and leaving, that we loved and interacted with the audience. And that’s an element we continue to be praised on to this day.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


The moment we stepped onto the stage at Rock N Wrestling Festival II and performed what became our hit single “Sanguine Famine”. It shaped us into a familiar but new form of beast that stampedes to this day.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


I came into the band later in its time but for myself that moment was when Anthony and Thomas brought Sanguine Famine to life. This song was a major symbol of where HAUNTER was headed compared to the sound our fans were used to. Sanguine Famine was still good ‘Ol HAUNTER with the atmosphere we all love, but with a slightly more raw industrial sound that wasn’t heard from us before.


AMIT AHUJA: What does the name Haunter represent to each of you, and how was it originally chosen? Has the meaning of the name changed as the band has grown, released more music, and developed its own identity? When people hear the name Hunter, what emotions, imagery, or ideas do you hope immediately come to mind?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I’ll leave the origins for Thomas as the creator, but for me, it immediately said “Halloween”. We don’t get nearly as many Pokemon questions as I thought we would with that name, which is kind of nice. Because I want people to think of graveyards and gothic imagery. With our newest updated logo, I think we have firmly accomplished that.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Haunter represents its meaning from us to all who witness us in any way, shape, or form. We’ve had times where we’ve felt pretty invisible to the masses but once they’ve seen or heard us it haunts and possesses them long after the last notes have ended. Haunter is a name that grows more and more meaning to me as time goes on and was actually the name of a song a good friend of mine and I wrote when we were 16 years old and I always thought it would make a great band name.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Response not provided.


AMIT AHUJA: Every successful band depends on chemistry as much as talent. How would each of you describe the personalities within Haunter? Who tends to be the perfectionist, who brings unexpected ideas into the room, who keeps everyone organized, and who helps lighten the mood when rehearsals or recording sessions become stressful? How do those different personalities strengthen the band?


ANTHONY RIVERA


Personalities are always unpredictable in an environment like a band. We’re all so passionate and hungry that sometimes we can get tunnel-vision, but all in the name of something good. I love that Thomas is the “big picture” guy always looking down the road, and he trusts Miguel and I to maintain the road leading there while we all communicate ideas and observations. Miguel himself is our cooling agent. When you have to make business decisions, it sometimes comes as the cost of personal feelings, and Miguel is really good at centering us if things get hot in those moments.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


All of us in Haunter have very strong personalities. All of us have strong work ethics, all of us are well organized, level headed, strong willed, etc etc etc! I was going to label who is the brain, heart, body, and soul of the band but honestly we share all of the above. Haunter is not just one person it’s all of us past and present.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


I am definitely the goofball in the band. Always making the guys laugh. I try my best to always keep our spirits high when things are looking a tad low. Though I could say we all kind of share all the hats. We are try to make sure we know where we all are when we are performing. We have this sense of naturally gravitating to our merch table. Haha Both Thomas and Anthony though handle the business aspects for the band. Those to are a power house.


AMIT AHUJA: Fans often see the finished music and live performances, but they rarely see the difficult moments behind them. What has been the greatest challenge Hunter has faced so far, whether personally, creatively, or professionally? How did you work through that experience, and what did it teach each of you about trust, communication, and staying committed to the band?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I’d say the toughest part of what we’ve done has been the financial aspect. It’s harder than ever to fund a band right now. We always say “being in a band is cheap, being is a SUCCESSFUL band is expensive.” I primarily run the finances for the band, so there are difficulties juggling everyone’s financial positions relative to what the band needs. It got really tough during the Sanguine Famine and Hunter$ sessions because those were back-to-back singles with big budgets for production, music videos, and marketing. That situation taught us a lot about being vocal about when we’re tapped and finding compromises to make sure we all stay above water.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


One of the greatest challenges for me personally has been losing family members very close to me within our 4 years as a band and as heartbreaking as it is to say that number has soared well above 5 people. I’m thankful to all of my bandmates that have been there for me but I have to give a special shout out to Anthony Diabolos for literally carrying the band during those dark times whether he knew he was doing it or not. Not an easy task I’m sure but he did it and I am forever in his debt. Since then these deaths have motivated me to release as much music as possible and sing it as loud as possible so that the other side may somehow hear it.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Thomas and Anthony can truly be the ones to speak on the hardships the band has faced before I joined. Since my joining I can say Trust and communication have always been a priority. We truly are a family, we may argue and bicker here and there, but in the end we are a strong unit. There is no hurdle we cannot get over.


Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery
Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery

AMIT AHUJA: Your newest song is called "Hunter$." Can you give readers a deep insight into the meaning and inspiration behind the track? Where did the first idea come from, what does the dollar sign in the title represent, and what themes, emotions, or messages were you hoping to communicate through the song?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I will let Thomas take the lead with this one as our primary concept creator. I’ll just say that this song is a dynamic rollercoaster with a powerful chorus and I hope people’s emotions sway around with the song as it was designed to take you on a journey.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Our latest hit single and music video titled “Hunter$” is influenced by the John Carpenter film known as “Vampires” which is an adaptation of the book “Vampire$” by John Steakley. Lyrically it brings attention to the topics of greed, toxic masculinity, and a cursed love that is simply never meant to be.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Thomas is the man for this question, as he is the mastermind behind the lyrics and most themes. HUNTER$ is a masterpiece that came to life through Anthony and Thomas’s visions. I was truly such a treat to seem them bring our song to life for you all to see.


AMIT AHUJA: Anthony, Thomas, and Miguel, I'd like each of you to explain what you personally contributed to "Hunter$." Whether your contribution began as a guitar riff, vocal melody, lyric, bass line, arrangement idea, atmosphere, or production choice, how did your individual piece first develop? How did the three of you combine those separate ideas until they became the final version of the song that listeners hear today?


ANTHONY RIVERA


Our previous drummer presented a synth melody and a drum part one day when I was recovering from a surgery I had. I had time to spare so I picked it apart and re-structured the song. I wrote the guitars and bass and felt so strongly about it as a single, I sent it to the guys immediately. They were sold. Thomas worked his concepts and lyrical inspiration, and we set out to make this song a big one. This was also during the production of Sanguine Famine, so we were juggling a few things and were also able to map out how Hunter$ made sense in context to the release timeline of the demos we had on the table.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


I am the full-time lyricist and vocal melody creator of the band but Anthony Diabolos and our recording engineer Derek Moffat of 608 Studios have on many occasions helped write harmonies and pitched lines of lyrics to perfect the songs. It’s a perfect but accidental dream team and now with Miguel Corpsova doing vocals with us live it has gotten that much better.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Anthony and Thomas were the masterminds behind HUNTER$. My contributions were mainly int he filming process of the video. I helped with the set up and behind the scene shots.


AMIT AHUJA: While writing and recording "Hunter$," were there any moments when you decided to take a creative risk or move outside of what people might expect from Hunter? Did the song change significantly from its earliest version, and were there any parts that were rewritten, removed, or added unexpectedly before you felt the track was complete?


ANTHONY RIVERA


The intro for Hunter$ was originally twice as long, there was a big build. But it was decided that it should be shortened to make sure the song maintains the audience through the chorus, since the verses and pre-choruses are also lengthy. Otherwise, the song exists as it was demoed out, which is cool. I think this song presents a few risks, including some vocal falsettos and falsetto harmonies mixed with a funky guitar and sliding bass. It was so different from what we’d done. We were confident the audience would “get it” but we knew there was a chance some wouldn’t.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Since HAUNTER’s inception we’ve always been about taking creative risks and stepping outside of the box of what people expect. It’s rarely on purpose and it’s rather natural. The only significant change I can remember was that the intro was going to be much longer before the first verse it.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


HUNTER$ is relatively the same from its conception to it’s released version. Though Anthony is definitely the man for this question. Haha I believe the only difference is honestly the length of the song.


AMIT AHUJA: One of the things fans rarely get to see is how a song comes to life before it reaches their speakers. Anthony, Thomas, and Miguel, I'd love for each of you to break down your role in that process. When you're writing together, who usually brings in the first spark of an idea, and how does everyone build upon it? As the song develops, how do you challenge each other's ideas, refine arrangements, and decide what stays or what gets left behind? Finally, can you choose one song—whether it's "Hunter$," a track from The Phantom Collection, or another favorite—and walk us through, step by step, how each of your individual contributions helped transform that original idea into the finished song that fans know today?


ANTHONY RIVERA


Songwriting is a fun process. It usually starts with me and an instrumental idea, sometimes guitar or synth. And I obsessively demo out a song in my home studio. Then I send it to the guys to review. They’ll give their thoughts and what could be different or better and we fine-tune some stuff. The icing on the cake, which is usually the last step, is vocals. Thomas and I work well together in that I happen to write things that he just “hears” in full in his head. He amplifies everything I lay down. It always kind of goes that route: instrument idea, instrumental demo, fine-tune, vocals, then additional vocals (harmonies, layers, co-leads), and we run with it. Our current demos are a very confident version of this process.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


It usually goes one of two ways. Either I present a song or even an album title that displays a certain type of meaning and atmosphere and we go from there and the song or songs start to take a life of their own. Or Anthony writes an entire song or songs unwarranted but very welcomed created from his own personal inspirations and sends them our way for edits and to write lyrics and melodies to them. As a band that writes about monsters, horror, science fiction, etc we have an infinite pool to draw from.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Anthony is your guy for this question as well. Haha Anthony is our main writer instrumentally wise in the band. He and Thomas are the bands cooks in terms of writingmusic. Though it is a group effort in conceptualizing the ideas. It would be one of us has a melody and we bring it up in our rehearsals and we play with it a bit and then Anthony and Thomas do their magic and we have a single.


AMIT AHUJA: Last year, Hunter released The Phantom Collection, giving fans a deeper look into your sound and creative vision. Now that you've had some time to reflect on the album, what does The Phantom Collection represent to each of you? Looking back, what themes, emotions, and experiences tie the record together, and what chapter of Hunter's journey does it capture? I'd also love for each of you to talk about a few songs from the album that hold a special meaning. Can you share the inspiration behind those tracks, the stories or emotions that influenced them, and what you hope listeners take away from them after hearing the record?


ANTHONY RIVERA


The Phantom Collection is a compilation album consisting of our first three EPs, nine songs total. It captures the formative years of the band and lets the audience take a journey through different sounds as the band evolved. You start super electronic and end very full-band. Which acts like a precursor to Sanguine Famine and Hunter$, whose goal was to capture all of those feelings in one. TPC for me represents a line in the sand in the creative process for the band, marking the end of an old era and the beginning of a fresh one.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


The Phantom Collection is actually a compilation album consisting of our very first EP’s known as The Grim Matrix, The Real Phantom, and Sex In Hell. It’s a great reflection of our roots and reminds us where we came from all while paying respects to past musicians we’ve had the privilege of working with. “Somewhere Over The Rain” is probably the song that fills my heart the most. It’s a special tribute to every musician I’ve ever worked with which is even displayed during a montage of past performance clips towards the end of the music video. Makes me shed tears every time. It is also influenced by the lives of Brandon Lee (The Crow) and Judy Garland (The Wizard Of Oz). Our very long epic known as “Wedding March Or A Funeral” also tugs at my heartstrings as it’s a song featuring my wife Sonja Romanov & friend Jac Kury both of The Maiden Voyage and it’s influenced by The Phantom Of The Opera because “love and music are forever” truly. Last but not least we have “Tongues Of Flame” which selfishly is one of my favorite songs to sing, scream, yell, and overall perform live hahaha! And it gets me dancing haha.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


The Phantom Collection was before my time with HAUNTER. Both Thomas and Anthony can give you much more on this than myself. Though as a fan of the band, The Phantom Collection is a very unique collection. Showing the bands numerous evolutions not only in sound but, aesthetics, and growth all around.


AMIT AHUJA: I'd like each of you to choose one song from The Phantom Collection that you feel especially connected to. What did you personally contribute to that track, what memories do you associate with creating it, and why does that particular song continue to stand out to you now?


ANTHONY RIVERA


The stand-out song for me is “The Dark Fantasy”. Personally, it was the first song I recorded on guitar, first song I wrote parts for, first time I added structural ideas to the band, and the first song to feature my lead vocals near the end of the song. We close with this song every night and the audience understands the mission every time.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


I’ve picked quite a few songs already but to answer this question I’m going to go with “The Dark Fantasy”. It empties my mind, heart, and soul in the best way. I fight my depression/demons every single day and this song helps me release my darkness every time I listen to it and perform it. Therapeutic for damn sure!


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


The song that sticks with me the most is Lascivious Stimulation. Though I did not contribute to the song itself, I did help in filming the Music Video. This song was the bands first DIY music video. Shot and edited completely by HAUNTER. I was approached by Anthony to help film the music video. He had seen how much I truly loved helping the band out and how I would take initiative to also find better solutions for an even better and efficient HAUNTER experience.


Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery
Photo Credit: Michelle Mace / Empyrean Imagery

AMIT AHUJA: When you compare The Phantom Collection with "Hunter$," where do you hear the greatest growth in Hunter? Have the biggest changes happened in your songwriting, performances, production, confidence, or ability to communicate with one another? What does "Hunter$" reveal about where the band may be heading next?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I think the biggest evolution is in the vocals. We’ve become a band that features two lead vocals and a third back-up vocal. We’re taking chances and positioning songs in a way that make the live performances that much cooler. There are a few other big changes in the guitar work and structure, but I think those (in a good way) blend in compared to the vocal shift. Also, guitar solos are super fun. Definitely expect more of that!


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Hunter$” definitely displayed that we could mix our haunting sound with straight up rock n’ roll and get away with it! It also provided us the opportunity to get away from the sort dark pop dance music we were known for in the beginning. As for where we’re headed next with our sound… you’ll never know. It’s always a surprise even to us.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


I feel that most people definitely notice the difference in regards to the bands growth in HUNTER$. Sonically our latest single is much different compared to anything from the Phantom Collection. We “decluttered’ our sound. Pulled back on a few things and focused a lot more on the actual music elements we truly cared for and believe is the “HAUNTER” sound. Though we still have that killer atmosphere we are known for, even that has grown with us. Finding even more ways to incorporate our beloved influences into our sound and style.


AMIT AHUJA: When you guys write the lyrics, are you usually drawing from personal experiences, observations about the world, fictional characters, or emotions that are difficult to express in ordinary conversation? How do you decide which experiences should become songs, and how comfortable are you with allowing listeners into the more vulnerable parts of your lives?


ANTHONY RIVERA


Thomas always does a great job telling the story real life scenarios through the lens of a movie or a video game that uses the same concepts. If you like the movie the lyrics are based on, you’ll like the song. If you don’t know the movie, you’ll still like the song because the lyrics aren’t so “on the nose” that they becomes unrelatable.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


When I write lyrics I’m drawing from my own personal experiences and beliefs but mixed with stories about monsters, vampires, ghosts, etc. I’m an open book and I’m not afraid of letting the world see my vulnerable side but I’m also not afraid to display it in an interesting way to sort of cope and even at times have fun with the emotions inside of me.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Thomas can answer this question best. He is the magician behind the lyrics you hear and repeat.


AMIT AHUJA: Has there ever been a message, conversation, or interaction with a fan that changed how you viewed your own music? Can you share a moment when someone explained that a Hunter song helped them through a difficult period, made them feel understood, or connected with them in a way you never expected?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I almost exclusively have fans talk to me about the instrumental side of things, so I’m not sure on the personal experiences with fans. But I do know that people have become captivated with the instrumental work, specifically the synth. As the guitar and bass work is coming forward, there are more comments about that as well. It seems there’s always someone who digs something we do on a deeper level at each show.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Actually a dear cousin of mine that rarely displays any sort of affections told me when he listened to our song “Somewhere Over The Rain” and watched the music video he cried. It made him open up about his feelings for the first time in YEARS! I guess this is another moment when I knew we were on to something special.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


I can honestly say that being in HAUNTER has been the most rewarding decision I have made in my musical career. Every show we attend I leave with nothing but positive emotions. Our fans both old and new are some of the kindest most interesting humans ever. Never ceases to amaze me that so many people love what we do and relate to our songs in their own ways. That’s what it’s all about in the end right? Absolutely an incredible feeling when you get approached and asked for a photo or to sign a shirt, poster, whatever it may be. I will forever cherish each interaction I have with our fans.


AMIT AHUJA: How has being based in Milwaukee influenced Hunter's identity, sound, and attitude? What makes the local dark wave, metal, and underground music community different from scenes in other cities, and what do you think people outside Wisconsin often overlook about the creativity and dedication found within Milwaukee's music scene?


ANTHONY RIVERA


That’s the fun part, we’re the only ones doing what we’re doing in Milwaukee. There is no local dark wave scene. There is a lot of hardcore and modern metalcore here. And I think it helps us stand out. The other side is it becomes tough to book a show sometimes because people want X genre, which we are not. But we have enough elements in common that we add to any local lineup to make it more dynamic without taking away from it or leaving people scratching their heads.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Hardcore, Metalcore, and Deathcore are the big three genres at the moment in Wisconsin. We don’t really pay attention to that or try to chase what’s the latest trend though. We just do what we like, what expresses us, and what fulfills us and ten times out of ten it turns heads and widens eyes.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


The Milwaukee scene is definitely interesting. HAUNTER definitely is unique compared to the other bands within the scene. We don’t really fit into a box. We’re a bit of everything depending on the song you here. Haha Our scene though is a massive mix of metal-heads of all the sub-genres. I believe that it self make our local scene very unique, you never know who might be in the crowd listening to your music and becoming a fan.


AMIT AHUJA: When someone attends a Haunter show for the first time, what kind of experience do you want to give them? Beyond performing the songs accurately, how do you think about atmosphere, intensity, movement, visuals, and emotional connection? What do you hope stays with someone after the final song ends?


ANTHONY RIVERA


We have a big focus on making sure we are present with the audience. We banter, have fun, dance, be goofy, talk to the audience. We connect to let them know we aren’t above them. We’re human and we just happen to be playing music you dig. I want to give the audience every emotion. I want heavy mosh pit moments, laughing silly moments, intense performance moments, all of it. The goal is to make a Haunter show fun, not just good music being played because that’s what CD’s are for.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


When anybody attends a Haunter concert we want to give them the full package. Haunting music accompanied by an entertaining and atmospheric stage performance. I think many bands of today forgot that WE as in musicians/bands that perform live are entertainment so don’t just give people something awesome to listen to but also give the people something awesome to witness visually.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Response not provided.


AMIT AHUJA: Looking back at your time together, what is one behind-the-scenes story that perfectly captures what it feels like to be part of Hunter? It could be something hilarious, chaotic, stressful, meaningful, or completely unexpected. What happened, and why has that memory stayed with the three of you?


ANTHONY RIVERA


What sticks with me is August 2025 through October 2025. We just played our biggest show ever at the end of July, then I had hernia repair surgery days later and was bedridden for two weeks. Exactly two weeks from the day of surgery, we had a huge show in Milwaukee to a nearly sold out crowd. I was hurt and it was tough, but we nailed it. That was followed by two more weeks of shows. Then we recorded Sanguine Famine, our first “new era” single, and filmed its music video the same day as a show (a 16-hour day). Then two more weeks of shows and a live performance podcast, with two more shows following. This was also while getting Miguel on board and practicing regularly to get him ready for live shows, and writing Hunter$. It was absolute chaos and the busiest time of my life at what was non-ideal medical timing. But man do I think that fire forged us in a crazy way. I’ll always be so proud of us for handling that time with grace and professionalism.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Filming our music video for “Sanguine Famine” and drinking a ton of fake blood to the point of nausea hahahaha! We go in hard no matter the cost!


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Oh, man! Where do I begin. Haha Honestly there are far too many but if I had to pick one. I would say that the memory for me is around the filming of HUNTER$. We were at our location of filming, which was a farm. Thanks to our homies in Silence In Numbers, specifically their drummer, for letting us use your space to film our video. We had actually reached out to our fans for their participation. We needed extras for the video and wanted our fans to be apart of this with us. That filming day was great! Beyond freezing out, it literally started to snow towards to end of filming. Haha Though we were all freezing it was great to not only meet some people whom I’ve not met yet, but seeing our own fans meeting each other and finding things in common outside of HAUNTER was awesome. They were all witnesses to our band humor though, getting to hear just how goofy we are in-between shots.


AMIT AHUJA: Anthony, Thomas, and Miguel, I'd like each of you to talk about your hobbies and interests outside of music. What do you enjoy doing when you aren't writing, rehearsing, recording, or performing? What activities help you relax, clear your mind, and return to the band feeling creatively refreshed?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I’ve been doing niche horror photography and videography since 2019, creating a business out of it in 2021, The Devil’s Reel. I work with special effects artists from around the world to capture their masks and props in a way that gives it life in a still image. Every year, I work a mask/art/music festival in Ohio called Palefest where I have a portable Photo Booth to showcase guests and artists alike. It’s been enormously fulfilling and allows me to hone skills that benefit Haunter in the meantime. Beyond that, I love playing single-player videos games. Final Fantasy, Dragon Ball, God of War, among others. I feel so inspired by these stories and feel it’s a gift to be able to physically experience them as opposed to “just” watching them in a movie or TV format, which I also spend a lot of time investing in.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


I’m in love with watching movies, watching television shows, playing video games, reading comics, reading books, collecting toys, and of course listening to music. I collect all of the above and worship them. They help me to relax and build my creativity.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


My major hobby outside of HAUNTER is Magic The Gathering. I love to get a good ‘Ol round of magic in whenever I can. If I’m not playing MTG, I’m probably on my ps5 playing PinBall or whatever game catches my interest in the time. Though most of my time is currently spent in tech books. Im currently working on my associates degree in IT programming.


AMIT AHUJA: Fans often know musicians only through their performances or social media. What is something about each of you that listeners would probably never guess? Do you have any hidden talents, unusual collections, unexpected interests, or personal goals that you have rarely had the opportunity to discuss publicly?


ANTHONY RIVERA


I have a house of horrors. Literally. I collect and display masks and props in my home. I have over 250 pieces throughout my home from horror to music to video games. Some are pieces from movies themselves (screen or production used), most are replicas. All are either awesome or terrifying, depending on the viewer.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


I take way too many bubbles baths in fact it’s where I do most of my reading and most of my lyric writing. I’m a master at the pogo stick and I own all 38 Godzilla movies… and counting! My Dad and I even attend G-Fest (Godzilla Festival) in Chicago every July. Personally, I would love to achieve my goal of being in a big budget film.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


I am a major BeeGees fan. Love their music since I can remember. I grew up listening to them thanks to my mom. She was a major disco/romatic music lover. My father introduced me to Motown and their various artist and Bob Marley. I gained my love heavy music through my older brother. He introduced me to bands like System of a Down, Toxic Holocaust, Trivium, Mudvayne, Marilyn Manson, Black Sabbath, Gun’s N Roses, and more. Ive taken it all in and try to use a lot of those baselines and techniques in my current playing. I speak fluent Spanish and English. I know a bit a French as well but not a whole lot anymore. Lack of practice. Haha


AMIT AHUJA: Beyond bands, albums, and musicians, what other influences have shaped Hunter's creative identity? Are there films, books, visual artists, family members, places, personal experiences, or major moments in your lives that have affected how you write, perform, and express yourselves through the band?


ANTHONY RIVERA


Haunter is incredibly influenced by horror movies, books, and comics. Sonically and lyrically, no story is without some kind of influential reference. We use these things and conduits to tell our own stories.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


The passing of my loved ones like my grandma Nero, aunt Roxie, cousin Ryan, and cat Arwen have motivated me to do so much more musically and to be as loud as possible live so that they may hear me wherever they are. As mentioned above many forms of media influence Haunter. Books by Stephen King, comics by Todd McFarlane, movies from Blumhouse, etc.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


My influences go way back. I am a major Universal Monsters fan. Dracula is my man! Growing up I watched old school Mexican westerns with my parents. Which influenced my style of “Alternative” dressing you see on stage. My absolute favorite horror film(s) are the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies. Though Thomas, Anthony, and myself all love horror, I can say our completely different styles make for the interesting look you all see on stage.


AMIT AHUJA: If you could place your music into any film—classic or modern—which film would you choose, and what kind of scene or emotional moment can you imagine your songs soundtracking perfectly? Is there a particular Hunter track that you believe would fit that scene, and what qualities in the song make it feel cinematic?


ANTHONY RIVERA


The best answer, in my opinion, is Queen of the Damned. Additionally, I’m a huge Rob Zombie guy. Without provocation, our music and visuals have been described as “If Rob Zombie directed Queen of the Damned”. Which I think is just so perfect and fitting.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


I think we could be the perfect soundtrack to a Creepshow movie and/or a The Return Of The Living Dead movie especially whenever the s*** hits the fan and things get really spooky. Hell! It would even work when the heroes are about to win or defeat said monsters!


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Personally HAUNTER would fit any and all alt genre movies. Especially the gothic, vampiric, or even slasher films. Our songs definitely all have cinematic moments in them. I feel if you close your eyes and listen to our songs you can picture the scene itself. I love Dracula, so I feel our Sex In Hell Ep would do amazing in a vampiric short film.


AMIT AHUJA: Being musicians and creative artists often means pouring so much of yourselves into your work that it can become mentally and emotionally demanding. Anthony, Thomas, and Miguel, throughout your journey with Hunter, how have each of you learned to balance the pressures of writing, recording, performing, work, and everyday life while protecting your mental well-being? Have there been any personal habits, creative outlets, perspectives, or support systems that have helped you stay grounded during challenging times? As a band, how do you support one another when one of you is struggling, and how important has that support been to Hunter's growth both on and off the stage?


ANTHONY RIVERA


Balance is tough. I’ve found myself completely immersed before without knowing it. I had to figure out how to make sure Haunter is getting the work it needs from me, while making sure I’m not consumed in the process (and therefore burned out). I think as a band we do a good job balancing each other out. As in we can comfortably go two months not seeing each other and there’s no steps lost. Which is a relief, I feel we are low-maintenance friends who understand we need to stay sharp. That allows each of us to invest time into our personal lives and find that balance. None of our lives are compromised by the band, and that’s really all you can ask for.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Honestly the only thing about being in a band that destroys me mentally, emotionally, and sometimes even physically is dealing with and keeping up with social media like Facebook, Instagram, X , Tik Tok, and what not. Everything is just fine so as long as you bring yourselves to communicate and listen.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


Balance in anything is always tough. Personally I have a struggle with it. I tend to dive fully into everything I do and never really give myself those breaks that are needed. I am beyond thankful to my wife for being my rock and keeping me grounded. She has been with me through numerous changes in my life both as my partner and friend. Without her I wouldn’t be here doing this very interview or playing bass in HAUNTER. As a band though, we do our best to be there for each other through thick and thin. We listen, we advise one another, and we communicate constantly to be sure we are always on the same page.


AMIT AHUJA: As you look toward the next several years, where do you hope Hunter goes creatively and professionally? Are there new sounds you want to explore, artists you would like to collaborate with, venues or festivals you dream of playing, or goals you want to achieve together? Ultimately, what kind of legacy do you hope Hunter leaves behind?


ANTHONY RIVERA


There’s so much road in front of us. Hundreds of bucket list moments ahead. Ultimately, we want to do this for a living. We want to the tours, we want the albums, we want the festivals. Not in a cheeky “haha yay no regular job, goof off all day” way. We want this to be our jobs. We want to put in the work. We want the trials and tribulations. We want The Eagle’s Ballroom. We want Wembly. We want Download. We want Warped Tour. We want to leave behind a legacy of uncompromising individuality and passion.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Signing with a major record label, tours across the globe, delve into the creation of ballad songs, play Ozzfest, and get Zak Bagans from the show Ghost Adventures on a track! As for what legacy I want Haunter to leave behind? Legendary music that resonates with as many people as possible for years to come and to remember us as a group of people that were always genuinely and unapologetically themselves.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


HAUNTER will be touring worldwide soon enough! I am putting that into the universe. Our sound will always evolve and be better than before. I feel we are reaching the point of playing out of state more. Touring is definitely on our plans for the future as well. HAUNTER is coming for the world.


AMIT AHUJA: As we wrap things up, what message would you like to leave with your fans and our readers? For anyone currently chasing a dream, struggling creatively, or still searching for their own voice and identity, what words of encouragement or perspective would you most like to share?


ANTHONY RIVERA


Do not let anyone dictate your visions. Do not let anyone else determine your goals and your timeline in achieving them. Not playing Wembly tomorrow is not a big deal. Identify if you want a career or a hobby. Adjust your goals and investments accordingly. Stick to your guns. Stay hungry.


THOMAS “GRIM” NERO


Be yourself and do it without a second thought and remember that “love and music are forever”.


MIGUEL CORPSOVA


My biggest piece of advise to you all is this, Follow your dreams. No matter haw far fetch they may seem. Be yourself, you have one life to live, make it one hell of a run. Never let anyone tell you what you can or can’t do. If you’re feeling a bit blocked step away go do something else for a bit and then come back and keep going. Never compare yourself to anyone else. This life isn’t linear. Always choose kindness.


Final Thoughts


A huge thank you to Anthony Rivera, Miguel Corpsova, and Thomas "Grim" Nero for taking the time to share their stories, experiences, and passion for Haunter. It was a pleasure getting an inside look at the band, learning about their creative process, and discovering the personalities behind the music.


If you're new to Haunter, I encourage you to check out their music, watch their videos, and support them by following their journey on social media and attending a live show if they come to your area. Independent artists thrive because of the support of their fans, and every stream, share, and concert makes a difference.


Thank you for reading this Hawk-IT Interview. I hope you enjoyed getting to know Haunter as much as I enjoyed putting this feature together. Stay tuned for more exclusive interviews with talented artists, musicians, creators, and innovators.


Until next time, keep discovering great music and keep supporting independent artists.


— Amit Ahuja


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Welcome to Hawk-IT Interviews today I had Doug Hair & Micheal Scott of from a band called Exhausted. Exhausted is a Crossover Thrash Metal Band from Sioux Falls, South Dokata. We talked both guys upbring, the band, the music, who the metal community is from his part of the state, and much more.


Amit Ahuja: What were your hometowns or childhood environments like, and how did that early upbringing or global culture shape your perspective as a creator today?


Doug Hair: My childhood has led me to be a fairly quiet and observant person, overall. I grew up an only child in the country in South Dakota. No cable TV, high speed internet, and most of my friends lived a ways away. I grew up right next to a state park, so it was basically like I had a huge backyard; but that meant I spent a lot of solitary time outdoors. Once I get to know someone I'm pretty chatty, but I often don't have a lot to say to most people.


Michael Scott: I grew up in the country, no internet, 3ish channels on TV, miles from any friends... I had to find or create something to do. But, I remember that I took an early liking to rock music. From a very early age I just remember gravitating to my parent's Guns n Roses, ZZ Top, Ozzy records and the local rock radio stations. Around 4th-ish grade I also had an older cousin who would come up to South Dakota (where I'm from) from Tucson who would game and listen to KoRn, PanterA, Manson, 311, The Offspring, White Zombie etc... I really liked hanging out with him and loved that music he listened to and he let me borrow his CDs. I also had access to being around a guitar at an early age. While my mom wasn't actively playing guitar she grew up playing guitar, which I currently have her guitar which is a cherished possession. It's a 1968 Gibson ES-335. Then, for my birthday at the end of 6th grade I got my first guitar, started guitar lessons. My guitar teacher's son, Dave Vanderlinde, was in my same grade and he is an amazing drummer. We became very close friends and started our first band in 7th grade and we played in bands with one another all through high school. Still very close friends to this day. Our upcoming EP, we recorded ourselves with Dave's guidance and then he mixed and mastered it. I have been very lucky to have the great support and guidance from family and friends throughout my life!


Amit Ahuja: How did your formative relationships, struggles, or early inspirations influence your emotional depth and the way you approach self-expression now?


Doug Hair: My best friend got cancer in late high school and died during my first year of college. People move in and out of each other's lives, but the impressions we make on each other far outlast the immediate connection.


Amit Ahuja: When did your creative journey officially begin? Was there a defining moment that shifted you from being a fan or observer into feeling compelled to produce your own work?


Doug Hair: I joined my first band 12 or 13 years ago. I played some instruments growing up, but it was never a passion of mine. Over time, I get new creative itches that pull me in different directions. In terms of Exhausted, I was thrilled when I got the call to play bass, as I had grown up listening to some of the previous bands of the other members.


Amit Ahuja: Whenever you release a new song, album, piece of art, or creative project, do you usually go into it hoping people walk away with a specific message, emotion, or deeper meaning? Or do you prefer to keep things more open-ended so everyone can interpret the work in their own way and connect with it through their own personal experiences? I’d love to hear how you balance sharing your own vision while still leaving room for fans or audiences to find their own meaning in what you create.


Michael Scott: I hope people are moved by it in whatever way that means for them. Art is such a personal experience in both creation and experiencing. I hope there is substance there to grip them in whatever that means for them but there has to be substance enough to to grip at all.


Amit Ahuja: What made you choose your specific medium, industry, or discipline, and who inspired you to pursue it seriously rather than just keeping it as a hobby?


Doug Hair: I tried guitar for a while with it never feeling like it quite clicked. At some point, I realized that bass was what clicked. It took a while for me to realize how much I wanted to pursue it, though. I was in a band for a while, not really taking anything very seriously...then at some point it occurred to me that I got a lot more out of it if I just put in a bit more effort than I had. It was fine doing it casually, but I found it much more rewarding to take it more seriously and try to set and meet some goals. It's tiring, it's stressful, it's frustrating, but it's fulfilling.


Amit Ahuja: How would you describe your local or digital creative scene, and in what ways has that community influenced your style, identity, or presentation?


Doug Hair: The scene here in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is small. There's a lot of good people working hard in the local scene, but there's really just not much going on overall. Not a large audience and not many larger acts coming through. On the one hand, it means you stand out a little easier, but it also feels a bit like we're on an island.


Michael Scott: A mixture of things. My cousin I talked about in my previous answer. He had a bass and he would let me play that. Then my mom had that beautiful Gibson... she rightfully didn't allow me to play that very much when I was little but just having those instruments in my world and apart of my schema probably helped me understand that these things make that music I love. Then, getting that first guitar in my hands, it was game over. I loved learning just how to play it. I was writing terrible two finger, non-sense dissonant chord riffs trying to write a song from the get go. But, then learning barre chords, palm muting etc... everything really started evolving and developing in my playing.


Amit Ahuja: Were there any specific venues, digital platforms, galleries, independent networks, festivals, or underground spaces that played a major role in your development?


Doug Hair: There's a relatively large local festival every summer called Four Winds. For many years now, that's been the largest weekend of the summer for myself, and many other musicians in the local scene.


Amit Ahuja: What initially drew you to the specific genre, style, or industry you are rooted in today, and what was it about that culture or aesthetic that resonated with you so deeply?


Doug Hair: I was in middle school the first time I heard metal music with harsh vocals. It was a small band out of Omaha, NE called Stigmata, and a friend showed me through one ear bud from his MP3 player. I was immediately freaked out, but it stirred something in me. Partly due to the scariness and partly despite it, I was drawn to it. After that I continued down the rabbit hole, and it's just never stopped. My tastes are still changing and evolving.

Amit Ahuja: Who were your earliest artistic inspirations, and how did their specific works help shape your approach to your craft or technique?


Doug Hair: In 2011 I saw Rob Zombie live for the first time. I was enraptured by his bassist, Piggy D. Something about his stage persona... I realized that was the thing I wanted.


Michael Scott: The earliest bands that really interested me were Nirvana, 311, Silverchair, Deftones and The Vandals. That was late grade school, early middle school. Then for the better part of middle school, with it being the late 90s, I got really into nuMetal. Slipknot, Mudvayne, KoRn, Soulfly, Sevendust which lead to what I think was one of my earliest heavy influences on my guitar playing which is Fear Factory. Dino's riffing has always hooked from an early age.


Then I got into more thrash bands like Slayer, Megadeth, the early Metallica albums and Anthrax (they should come up for a term for these large 4 bands at some point...). Which lead me to my favorite guitarist and probably biggest influence which is PanterA and Dimebag. In high school it just kept progressing to Death, Meshuggah, Lamb of God, Mastodon, Opeth, Tool, and other death metal bands and bands with prog elements. I loved odd timings and bands with a large rhythm vocabulary. Then in my first year of college I saw Gojira open up for Lamb of God and their rhythms and writing absolutely floored me. So, those three bands/guitarists have been probably my biggest influence among many other but those three really had a big impact on me. Fear Factory/Dino, PanterA/Dimebag, Gojira/whole band.


Amit Ahuja: Take us back to the birth of this project, collaborative group, or professional path. How did it begin, and what led to the defining moment where everything clicked?


Doug Hair: I'm not an original member, so I'm not the best person to answer this. All the other members have history with each other, though. It was just a matter of getting the right people in the right positions.


Michael Scott: Exhausted’s inception comes from the history members had with one another. Michael briefly played bass in The Tennessee Murder Club with Josh and Nick around 2009. He also had a history with Frank from previous bands that played shows together in the late 2000s. Nick and Michael went on to do a small project called Wretched Earth that had one EP. During the Covid lockdown Nick, Josh, Frank and Michael all worked together on a project jokingly called Thunder Rifflin, a track called “One and Done.” Little did they know, it wouldn’t just be one and done and they’d be writing together again in the future. Fast forward to the spring of 2023; Frank and Michael were talking about starting a new project. Frank crossed paths with Nick at a local show and also discussed starting a project with Michael. They then reached out to Josh to play drums. After getting together a few times and starting the writing process they had yet to add a bassist. They wanted fresh blood and fresh perspective for the band…someone none of them had worked with before. The band was aware of Doug from being in other projects and what a dynamic player he is and great stage presence he has. So he was a perfect fit and it became really apparent from first practices together that this mixture worked well! The lineup hasn’t changed. When we first started jamming and writing the first songs it just felt right. The riffs were heavy, yet groovy with high energy. Everyone just fit in perfectly.



Amit Ahuja: What was your original vision or intent when you first started out, and how has that evolved or surprised you compared to who you are today?


Doug Hair: Originally, the imagery was inspired by the 80s/90s skate punk aesthetic...sort of closer to the crossover thrash look of the late 80s. Nowadays, we've embraced a darker, harsher look.


Amit Ahuja: Did you consider other project names, aliases, or branding directions before settling on your current identity, or did it immediately stand out as the right choice?


Doug Hair: Again, this isn't as much my place, as I wasn't there for a lot of these initial decisions.


Amit Ahuja: What is the story behind your professional name or creative identity, and what does it represent for you emotionally, philosophically, or artistically?


Doug Hair: The name behind the band is somewhat tongue in cheek. On the one hand it ties into the nature of modern existence. We have all these modern conveniences, yet people are just as depressed and burnt out as ever. On the other hand, aside from myself, everyone in the band are in their 40s and 50s. All of us are veterans in the music scene. We're all just fucking exhausted


Amit Ahuja: How does your creative name or visual brand reflect the themes you explore (like transformation, duality, vulnerability, or rebellion), and has its meaning changed as your work has matured?


Doug Hair: Many of the lyrics written by our vocalist deal with the drudgery of modern life. It feels like everyone is disenchanted and burnt out. Living conditions and material conditions need not be as bad as they are. Yet we all grind and grind to just scrape by.


Michael Scott: We are a pretty straight forward metal and where we want a what you see is what you get. Many of us have been in bands where the visual aesthetics kind of came first and we didn't want that for this band.


Amit Ahuja: Did you experiment with different project names, aliases, aesthetics, or branding ideas before settling on your current identity, or did this one immediately stand out as the right representation of who you are creatively? I’d also love to hear if there’s any deeper meaning, story, or personal connection behind the name and how it reflects your work, personality, or artistic vision.


Michael Scott: For the band name Exhausted we had a list of ideas and names. There is a little tongue in cheek joke there when we named the band of a bunch of middle-aged men (Doug wasn't in the band at the time) playing metal are probably exhausted. But for me personally I just go with my name. Michael Scott is a name people remember around the office for some reason.


Amit Ahuja: What is the story behind your professional name or creative identity, and what does it represent for you emotionally, philosophically, or artistically?


Michael Scott: I write riffs... My nickname in high school was simple, "PanterA." Everyone knew I loved PanterA. But, as far as my creative name, I just go with my actual name. Sorry, nothing real interesting here


Amit Ahuja: Given the unique vulnerability of sharing your work, image, or performance, how do you handle stepping into the spotlight and connecting with your specific audience live or online?


Doug Hair: I would hazard a guess that all of us have been nervous at times. At this point, we've all been doing it for so long that it just comes naturally. It can be hard to share something you create with others, but it's torture to have something you've created never see the light of day.


Michael Scott: I love the act of preforming but struggle with the being in front of people. Even if that's just speaking in front of people for my job. But, I think it's really important for us to do the things that scare us. Helps us grow and realize it's fine and we don't need to worry.


Amit Ahuja: Have you ever received praise or a reaction to your work from fans, or family that really stayed with you? If so, is there a story behind it you’d like to share?”


Michael Scott: As a rhythm guitarist when someone praises my tone or riffs is one of the biggest compliments I can get and sticks with me.


Amit Ahuja: What are the honest highs and lows of being an independent creator in today's global landscape, and has this path changed you personally in ways you didn't expect?


Doug Hair: There's a lot of burnout. This is a passion project for all of us, we all have many other commitments. It's a lot of work to try to make it successful, and it can be incredibly discouraging at times. There's also the thrill from hearing people connecting with something you've put your effort into.


Michael Scott: I think the paradox of choice can be overwhelming as a listener and makes things very tough as an artist. There is just SO MUCH GOOD music out there. There really is. At the same time that makes it tough as a listener to spend too much time on any one record now-a-days unless something REALLY speaks to you. You have a certain record come out, you think it's really good but then... this other record just came out too that you need to go listen to. That same idea for artists makes it tough to really gain ground especially without "playing the game" of needing to constantly be releasing content.


Amit Ahuja: Despite the inevitable setbacks, stigmas, or challenges that can come with your specific field, what keeps you motivated and moving forward at this stage of your career?


Doug Hair: Some piss and vinegar, I suppose. The thought of failing gives a kind of 'fuck you' energy.


Michael Scott: I just have to create. I have been playing guitar and writing music since the 7th grade and whether it's been in a band setting or when I knew I was living and working where being in a band wasn't possible I built up a little recording home studio so I continue writing. Setbacks, challenges, stigmas can all be turned into motivation for creation.

Amit Ahuja: Looking closely at your latest releases, projects, or portfolios, what are the core meanings and stories behind them, and what kind of headspace were you in while creating them?



Doug Hair: We have an EP dropping in June, comprised of three songs we've been honing over the last few years. They've all had the road test, they've all had their last minute tweaks during the recording process. We're thrilled to finally have them out for people to listen to.


Amit Ahuja: How personal are these specific works to you, and do they reflect real-life experiences, struggles, or relationships you wanted to process through your art?


Doug Hair: They definitely reflect the struggle we all feel. The hope would be that others connect with it and it helps them put words to something they've been feeling, or that it maybe reinforces something they're already thinking. We're all in the same boat, and there's strength in numbers and awarenes


Amit Ahuja: Whether working solo or collaboratively, were there any moments during your recent creative processes that pushed you completely outside your comfort zone technically or emotionally?


Doug Hair: We did a lot of the engineering for this EP ourselves. Under guidance from Dave Vanderline of All Hail The Yeti, we did all the miking and tracking ourselves for this EP. Then Dave did all the editing, mixing, and mastering. He still had a ton of work to do, but it was a great learning experience to have him walk us through our side of the process.


Michael Scott: Our lead guitarist is a better technical player than I am and he pushes me a lot which is good. I have grown a lot through this endeavor as a guitar player.



Amit Ahuja: On a personal level, what does the act of expression or performance represent for you? Is it catharsis, healing, confrontation, self-discovery, or something else entirely?


Doug Hair: Catharsis to some extent. Largely, it's a grounding experience. For a moment, everything else fades away and you're just in the moment.


Michael Scott: There is a bit of release and catharsis as well as confronting fears of performing in front of others. It is also a way to connect with others through art.


Amit Ahuja: The creative path is full of rejection and self-doubt. What advice would you give to emerging talents on how to turn those difficult setbacks into motivation and longevity?


Doug Hair: Rejection is hard, but holding yourself back out of fear of rejection is worse. I have no idea how to advise someone on self doubt [laughs].


Michael Scott: Simply learn from those setbacks. Someone with no setbacks and no rejection is a person who hasn't grown as an artist.

Amit Ahuja: Given the intense emotional and professional demands of your work, how do you balance your career with your mental health and well-being?


Doug Hair: I struggle with this a lot. It's a tough thing to pursue, and I often end up in a bad headspace. The bitterly ironic thing for me is this: Music is the most grounding, relieving, and fulfilling thing in my life. It's also what causes me the most stress, anxiety, and negativity.


Michael Scott: I feel music and writing is good for my mental health. Now when you get into the business side of things, if that takes over that takes a toll on my mental health. Or the struggles at times in working with others and the problems that can come with any relationship with others. But, the music side, if that's kept in focus really helps my mental health.


Amit Ahuja: Who are three individuals—mentors, peers, or family members—who have had the most profound impact on your life, and what is the biggest lesson they taught you?


Doug Hair: It's so hard to name just three, and I don't want to leave anybody out and risk hurting anyone who has impacted me. Many many people around me have inspired me, and I'm very grateful for all of them.


Michael Scott: My mom. She was the one who first started me on this path of playing guitar as I mentioned in an earlier answer. My cousin Chuck/Charles who really helped me on my path of heavy music My best friend David Vanderlinde. He was my drummer all through high school. His dad my guitar teacher. Just a close, close friend that has helped me in so many ways as a musician and friend.


Amit Ahuja: Outside of your primary medium, what other forms of storytelling or imagery inspire you and bleed into your creative process?


Doug Hair: Film is a big one for me. I also love reading.


Michael Scott: Movies and video games but it's tough for those things to bleed into riff writing.


Amit Ahuja: If you could feature your work, style, or persona in any classic or modern film, which movie would you choose, and what kind of scene would it perfectly visualize or complement?


Doug Hair: Oh jeez I don't even know where to begin.


Michael Scott: Fight Club. I think the duality of man there is pretty on point for me. Being a high school special education teacher as well as playing in a metal band. For people in the metal scene it's surprise that I am a teacher and a coach, for my co-worker they are surprised that I play in a metal band... But for those who really get to know me, everyone just learns what a big dork I am at my core.


Amit Ahuja: What does the next chapter hold for your career? Are there any upcoming releases, events, collaborations, or new directions you are excited to share?


Doug Hair: Exhausted's new EP, Down To The Wire, is out June 26th. A few of my other bands have releases coming up this year as well, so I'm staying plenty busy.


Michael Scott: We have a new EP coming out June 26th. It is called, "End Result"


Amit Ahuja: To wrap things up, what final message would you like to leave for your supporters and anyone out there who is still trying to find their own authentic voice?


Doug Hair: Thank you so much for the support. We don't make this music to just have ourselves, we make it to share with others so we need the whole community. For anyone who's still trying to find their own authentic voice, just be yourself. Everybody is self-conscious. People recognize and gravitate to authenticity. But on the other hand you can't win them all, and you don't need to try.


Michael Scott: Take risks, try things, you don't know who your authentic self is sometimes until you find out what really isn't your authentic self. And don't be afraid to change your image who your authentic self was years ago because artists are dynamic characters and can change.


Amit Ahuja: Thanks Doug Hair & Michael Scott of Exhausted for sharing your stories with us today.


Photo Credit  Michael Iverson of @grievance_imagery
Photo Credit  Michael Iverson of @grievance_imagery

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